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Post by Goldendercon on Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:01 am

ok, so I ended up drawing another dragon out of boredom... It's a little shabby... I just wanted some honest criticism, and I know that most of it will come from dark. Sorry for the big white space, it was reserved for future dragons. Thanks in advance
Well, let me present to you the four tribal leaders of my story...

Erithe, Mistress of the Agile Talon
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Malkuthe, Lord of the Highwind


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Jade, Mistress of the Brightscales
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Saffyre, Mistress of the Swift Tail
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Ok, so the following is a banner of my Wiki, where you can find information on this specific species. The information is under Characters>The Ceree Dragons. If you want, you can browse the site, but it's still under construction so don't hope to find that much...



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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by sniperwolf777 on Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:25 pm

How much critisicm can we give on a dragons head?
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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Fewmets on Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:59 pm

I like the name. Laethe feels good. She (the dragon) is pretty (sorry if its a guy it looks like a girl, and the name makes it sound like a girl). If anything the frills at the back of her neck (see below) are a little to much. I can't wait to see her body. Is she going to be Western style, or Eastern style?


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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by darkwulfv on Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:46 pm

Good concept, but a bit monotone. Needs some more variations of blue.
As fewmets said, the head frills should be reduced slightly.

Damn I wish I could draw this well.

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Post by Fewmets on Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:52 pm

oh sorry to make such a short post but just to let u know, it doesn't fully show up [edit]on the forums[/edit] because the image is to wide. try to crop off a little of the left side if you can. plox.

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Post by Mooo-Gunsniper on Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:51 pm

Wow, even for a head, you've got talent.
The appearance gives off a good feminine look.

I've got no criticism to give.

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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Goldendercon on Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:36 pm

Thanks Guys, and as for the body, It will be in the western style. However, I still have to fix the wings, and then the anatomy. I'll post when it's done.

@Dark: I'll get to it pronto, hehe, I'm new to the world of cel-shading you know... XD

@Fewmets: Sure, I'll crop it a bit... and yes, indeed, she is female. This is the first time I've tried to draw a female western...

@Mooo: Thanks, I appreciate that.
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Post by CaptainFluffy on Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:21 am

Well, is this dragon going to be a more reptile-ish kind? With the scales and such. Or will it be more bird-like with feathers.
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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Fewmets on Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:17 am

Most Western Dragons are drawn with scales as opposed to feathers. feathers are also hard to get good with cel-shading

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Post by Goldendercon on Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:22 am

Indeed, the feathers will be difficult, but, there really is no need to put scales on it when it is drawn in such a style... The wings, as I have planned will be a break from the traditional style, not feathers, and not bat-like wings.

EDIT!! here's another dragon:


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Post by darkwulfv on Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:26 am

You should add a couple patches of scales, to hint towards its texture, but indeed having the entire body wrapped in scales would look weird... and be hard.

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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Goldendercon on Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:28 am

That is exactly why I choose to draw unrealistic dragons as opposed to the realistic ones, because realistic is way harder...
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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Goldendercon on Wed May 06, 2009 12:02 am

^^Bump^^ Updated first post with more dragons... Very Happy
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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Mooo-Gunsniper on Wed May 06, 2009 2:09 am

Now I'm starting to doubt your age after seeing your drawings. This is the first time I've ever seen a 13 year old show this much skill. (or ARE you 13?)

I think my favorite would be the 2nd dragon, the Lord of the Highwind.

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Post by Fewmets on Wed May 06, 2009 3:01 am

you do these on the computer right? do you use one of those pen tablets? Trying to do decent art with a mouse is nigh impossible I find.

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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Mooo-Gunsniper on Wed May 06, 2009 3:42 am

Lots of online artists scan a sketch they did, use the pen tool on Photoshop, do some colouring and finishing, and get a picture.

Yeah, using a mouse to create art is hard.

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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Goldendercon on Wed May 06, 2009 4:03 am

Thanks!

I lost my tablet's ballpen a while back and found it just this morning.

I am DEFINITELY 13 years old.

All four of those were done with a mouse...

It's simple really... I just zoom in to 1200%...

and yeah, that is exactly how I do it mooo.
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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by darkwulfv on Wed May 06, 2009 5:33 am

Tablet must be far less time-consuming though.

Those are all really nice, although I've noticed that they all look somewhat similar (not including color), but I suppose since that's your style (and the species of dragon(s)?), it's not a major deal.

Great job.

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Post by Goldendercon on Wed May 06, 2009 10:23 pm

I agree, tablets are far less time consuming. However, I haven't quite mastered lineart with a tablet yet. So, I still use the mouse to make my lineart.

They look similar because they're of the same species. A creation of my own, the Ceree(Pron. Se-rey).

@Mooo: You like Malkuthe? Well, that's my persona or should I say "Scalesona" lol hahaha...
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Post by sniperwolf777 on Wed May 06, 2009 10:33 pm

Is it just me.. or are these just recolored versions of the same dragon..
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Post by Goldendercon on Wed May 06, 2009 10:43 pm

no, I made each from scratch, although I am working on my style of drawing them...

I'll be redrawing each one of those when I perfect my style... consider those as rough drafts...
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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Fewmets on Thu May 07, 2009 2:37 am

what program do you use gold. now im curious. i use corel painter 10 (new name for Paintshop Pro). Also please Please tell me that your "mouse" is a rollerball mouse (with the red ball on top), otherwise I'll feel inadaquate.

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Post by Goldendercon on Thu May 07, 2009 4:12 am

I use photoshop CS3... But I guess corel could work too... if and when I get it I do not know as of now. Okay, I'll tell you that my "Mouse" is a rollerball mouse. While in fact it is an optical one...

Remember: The Pen tool(or equivalent in corel) is your friend Smile also, I might sound like an idiot for saying this... practice makes perfect. Oh and magnifying the image a whole lot works too...
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Post by Fewmets on Thu May 07, 2009 4:39 am

I always magnify but I can never seem to get a good picture. I draw good with a tablet but I sucks with either a mouse or good old paper and pencil.

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Re: Dragon(of course) needing criticism

Post by Goldendercon on Thu May 07, 2009 9:44 am

ohh... well, good luck then...
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