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Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by darkwulfv on Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:31 pm

In Warring Clans, each clan will have minor heroes to supplement battle. So, I think it'd be best to include the community in their creation.

Each clan will have 4 (count 'em) heroes, and each game, 1 will be randomly selected to assist in combat. (S/He will be fully automated).

So, your job is to create a hero. That's 3 abilities (that have 6/5/4 levels) and 1 ultimate (that has 3 levels). Each hero should fit a role, and each hero must have an element (fire, water, lightning, nature, night, day, life, death, normal). Their abilities should fit the element you choose, but a little deviation is okay.

Heroes will be judged as follows:

Creativity (15) - Is your hero original in design? Are his/her abilities new and creative? Do they make for a good presentation of the hero?
Usefulness (15) - Is this hero a good supplement to the race you've given it to? Does this hero fit its chosen role well, and does it look like it would work on the battlefield? Is this a hero you would want to play as?
Abilities (10) - Did you design good abilities for this hero? Do they fit the hero's theme well? Do these abilities look useful? Do they form synergy and combos within the hero or possibly other heroes?
Other (10) - Other includes name, presentation, overall design idea, and basically a "Does this look like a good hero?" idea.

Limit of two (2) heroes per person. They can go to any race you pick. Heroes should be submitted as follows:

Hero Name (Creative name) (eg: Frank)
Hero Name (Unit name) (eg: Paladin)
Hero Model (and color) (eg: Paladin model, light green)
Hero Element (eg: Life)
Primary attribute (eg: Agility)
Starting Attributes (eg: 20 / 20 / 20) (Must add up to 60)

Abilities:
Ability 1: Description of ability; what it does, what it should look like. Icon, if you can think of one. 6 Levels.
Ability 2: Same as above. 5 Levels.
Ability 3: Same as above. 4 Levels.
Ability 4 (ultimate): Same as above. 3 Levels. Should be a worthy-looking ultimate (something you'd really look forward to getting)

Be as detailed as possible with the abilities (how much damage is dealt, radius, etc. is optional but appreciated), including how units are damaged ("units hit by rocks take damage", for example), and so on and so forth.

Submit all hero ideas to the Submission thread here:
Contest Submission

Have fun!

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by darkwulfv on Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:34 pm

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by darkwulfv on Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:20 am

Ah, some submissions.

Sniper:
Good base idea. First spell is simple but effective. Second spell is okay I suppose, but it could use something more. Third spell looks good, but will be a pain to code. Ultimate seems a bit simple, and not as climactic. Keep the meteor theme, change the spell.

Fire:
The basic idea is good, but you don't actually give the hero any spells that do anything Nature related, aside from "Wolf Bite"; and even then. The spells are basic, but due to their seemingly-random element makeup make them hard to use. The ultimate is also very anticlimactic; it's not big and wondiferous.

Fluffy:
<3 the added detail (damage per level, etc.), although a lot of it increments inconsistently. First spell is a good support idea, albeit a bit complicated (too many effects!). Also, evasion can't be added/removed from people like that in a clean-looking manner. Second ability, I don't like. You're making the hero insane, but it's a big tradeoff. I would lay off the massive damage-modifiers. Third spell seems a little out-of-place on your hero, not really seeing the connection besides water/sea. Plus, the Naga aren't very big on summons. Ultimate is very much like the second spell, both in make-up and in what I think of them.


Thanks for your submissions! Feel free to change your heroes as you see fit, you've got plenty of time to refine them.

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:21 pm

Edit second ability and ultimate. However in advance. Burning of corpes would seem sorta Counter undead.
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Mooo-Gunsniper on Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:49 pm

Yeah, it would kinda be like a counter to the undead, but isn't your hero undead in the first place?

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by CaptainFluffy on Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:58 pm

But i thought naga were supposed to be high attack/slow attack speed?
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:14 pm

Mooo-Gunsniper wrote:Yeah, it would kinda be like a counter to the undead, but isn't your hero undead in the first place?

Yes but i mean the new idea for the ulti would be helpfull and ineffective at the same time.

Fluffy your heros buffs made it incredibily OP.
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by darkwulfv on Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:45 pm

But i thought naga were supposed to be high attack/slow attack speed?
Not necessarily. Besides, giving your hero massive %'s of attack boosts is not only imbalanced, but doesn't really show much in the way of creativity... especially when his 2nd spell and ulti are almost exactly the same kind of spell.

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:38 pm

Soo whens the results gonna be posted and are we all competing for one slot?
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:46 pm

what is this about
Wait everyone can make maps now?
can i join or is to late
is this like making custom spells using triggers or just spells?
and what you mean by making a hero for what?
Assist in what game?
Or is this you make the idea and post them and don't make then, just idea?

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:53 pm

warring clans joker everyone can submit a minor hero that will assist the players in game just look at some of our subbmisions and base your hero (if you make one) On the same format.
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:56 pm

assist the players in game?
What does that mean?
So you don't actually make the hero on world editor?

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:58 pm

No we come up with ideas. It means the hero helps push lanes and kill creeps. Another player yoj dont have to control.
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:03 pm

so the spells need to be able to be used by the computer?
so i should use spells they already know?
No editor that's not fun : \ and hard

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:08 pm

You come up with abilitys and spells and see what dark can do.
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:10 pm

Okay is this for a map or something?

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:55 pm

Yeah warring clans.
And fire your ultimate sounds alot like the wookie in Ninjas in pyjamas Or ninja otakus on battle net or ninja on bnet OR WHATEVER THE FUCK ITS CALLED they change the name so much.
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:01 pm

warring clans is a map darkwulf made?

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by darkwulfv on Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:52 pm

Yes, Warring Clans is a map I'm making.

This contest is where you design a hero idea, spells and all, and if you win (basically if I like your hero), your hero gets a spot in the minor heroes section for Warring Clans. It's easy and fun.

To answer Sniper's question; there's 3 slots, one for each race. You're competing for that slot.

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:11 pm

Buut unless it picks up in the next few weeks there is a hero for each race.
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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by darkwulfv on Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:50 am

Knight, nice to see you submitted. You forgot to specify what race your hero belonged too.

Anyways... Your spell kept its theme, good. I'm not liking Shadow Dagger only because the computer would probably get slaughtered after using it (getting her face right into the battle... Not good). She doesn't need shadowmeld since she won't be standing still, ever. Windwalk-esque spell is... okay... I'm not really seeing it being too useful, since I would imagine she is a ranged hero. Nightfall is completely useless; turning night to day wouldn't do anything besides make her spells castable. Her ultimate is not the greatest; mirror image is okay, but I don't see the point of revealing everything around her.

All in all: Needs a remake.

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Guest on Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:11 am

I'm kinda only good at player used heroes >.<
Cause i would use the Night spell then jump behind and sleep walk away or just shadow meld : \

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by darkwulfv on Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:16 am

Normally, that would be a good idea (a bit imba if you ask me), but for a computer it wouldn't be so good.

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by Guest on Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:21 pm

I know I'm adding the idea to my map XD

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Re: Minor Hero Contest (DISCUSSION)

Post by sniperwolf777 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:09 pm

You got a map?. And what is it about the hero. Sounds kinda like something from dota. (i had a friend who was a really friendly dota player and hosted it for me and his friends Razz)
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